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Lisa Vanderpump weighed in on Ariana Madix‘s potential exit from Vanderpump Guidelines on a podcast on Tuesday.

Because the collection stays on “pause” forward of its twelfth season, Lisa, 63, regarded again on Ariana’s eleventh season, sharing her ideas on her refusal to talk with Tom Sandoval, 41, and the forged’s response to it whereas additionally reflecting on Lala Kent‘s near-exit from the present, crediting Stassi Schroeder, 35, for setting the groundwork wanted to get the collection off the bottom, and extra.

“I think it would be brave of her because she’s been a cast member a long time and your pay goes up exponentially the longer you stay on a show,” Lisa mentioned on the June 18 episode of Not Skinny But Not Fat after being requested if Ariana, 38, would give up.

In keeping with Lisa, she feels Ariana would do okay with out Pump Guidelines — “if she could find a job in musical theater, which is hard to do.”

“She’s coming back [to Broadway]. I don’t know [if I’ll make it]. I’d like to see her, though,” Lisa continued.

Whereas there have been experiences suggesting Ariana is mad at Lisa for being Crew Tom, Lisa denied any such factor, clarifying that she is just not Crew Tom.

“No, I’m definitely not on Team Tom. I’m on Team Vanderpump. I’m on Team Mediator. I was disgusted by the whole thing, I just, the whole thing felt very grubby. But when Tom was really struggling … I was like, ‘This is too much,’” Lisa mentioned, giving a nod to the hatred Sandoval acquired after his affair with Rachel “Raquel” Leviss, 29, was made public.

Lisa additionally didn’t agree with Lala and Scheana Shay, 39, who have been important of Ariana for refusing to talk to Sandoval for the finale.

“Would you want to have the conversation?” she requested. “They felt, for the show, they put everything out there, and they felt if she can live in the same house, it felt like, ‘Come on, you can’t keep saying, I’m not talking to you.’ People want to know how you feel. [But] listen, it’s up to them to make decisions. This show isn’t produced.”

Though Scheana steered that she and Lala felt pushed by Bravo into creating extra drama than was pure, Lisa mentioned she didn’t recognize the community being attacked.

“This is what I don’t like, the claims against Bravo. ‘You’re made to drink.’ No, I’m not. You’ve seen me on reality television for 15 years. You drink if you wanna drink,” she famous, not mentioning her castmates by title.

As for Lala’s near-departure, Lisa mentioned she talked her out of the thought.

“Lala, she was another one that was gonna walk away. I was like, ‘You get back here.’ A lot of potential. She was gonna walk away from it, I’m like, ‘No, I’m not letting you do that,’” Lala recalled.

In the course of the eleventh season of Pump Guidelines, Lala suffered falling outs with each Ariana and Katie Maloney, 37, who she accused of failing to specific her true emotions about what Ariana was and wasn’t sharing on the present.

“These young people, their friendships changed like you change your socks. It moves so quickly. Before you know it they’ll be, but at the time, they had valid feelings and I think they should express them,” Lisa mentioned in response to the drama.

For now, the forged is taking a cooling-off interval.

“I’m very busy right now … I’m opening a new restaurant in Flamingo in Vegas in September. They want to bring it back later,” Lisa defined. “The whole thing has to breathe a bit. Let’s be honest, with this group, you could film them 52 weeks a year because it’s an authentic story where they’re in and out of each other’s vaginas and lives all day long.”

Amid season 11, followers have been launched to Ann Maddox, Sandoval’s ex-assistant who finally started working with Ariana and Katie at their newly-opened sandwich store, One thing About Her.

“[Ann]’s been stolen from Sandoval by Ariana. I said, ‘If she can be stolen from Tom, can I steal her from Ariana?’ Not that I want [an assistant] or need one. I am my people,” Lisa mentioned of the surprising fan-favorite.

“I have a housekeeper but not an assistant. I’m pretty self-sufficient,” she continued. “It’s kind of weird for me when they’re on Vanderpump Rules and I have to speak to their assistant when I don’t have one. I have a big company but I like to keep my hands on everything.”

As for Ann’s future on Pump Guidelines, Lisa steered viewers would see extra.

“[Ann] loves it. She’s gleeful for the camera time and if she loves it so much and she’s a good assistant, there’s room for her on the show,” she teased.

When Lisa was then requested whose restaurant she’d go to out of One thing About Her, Schwartz & Sandy’s, and Jax’s Studio Metropolis, she selected Schwartz & Sandy’s.

“Well, I love Schwartz,” she defined. “I hope for Schwartz that he gets to a point where he can actually say what he’s thinking and do what he’s supposed to be doing without worrying about anybody else. That’s what I hope for him. He’s very smart and he’s articulate as well.”

Trying again on all of the backlash Sandoval acquired for his affair, Lisa admitted to feeling compassion.

“How much can one person take? Sometimes people are a**holes. They are and they don’t get literally the headlines in CNN. It became a little too overreactive and I worry about people’s mental health. I think the pressure gets too much,” she reasoned.

In keeping with Lisa, it was Stassi who set the stage for Pump Guidelines when it started in 2013.

“Stassi set the stage … she was very open. She didn’t give a sh*t. She’s like James Kennedy. ‘I’m gonna say what I’m gonna say and I don’t care if there’s cameras over there because I’m just gonna do it.’ That’s how she was,” Lisa acknowledged. “And that kind of set the stage for a great reality show and then it was obviously the fractious relationship between her and [Jax Taylor].”

Years after Stassi was fired from Pump Guidelines for her racially charged habits of the previous, Lisa mentioned the 2 of them are nonetheless in contact.

“I like Stassi a lot, I think Stassi has always had so much potential and it was very sad when she was let go,” she admitted. “It was a sign of the times of what was happening in the zeitgeist of people saying ‘no this isn’t right’ and I understood their decision. The decision was made. It was way up above, It was people, it was a knee-jerk reunion. Maybe it wasn’t. Bravo thought it through but I wasn’t part of that. But I couldn’t stop it. It was like a runaway train. She thought she was invincible. And for me, I would rather watch young people learn from their mistakes.”

Talking of younger individuals who study from their errors, Lisa applauded James, 32, for his development.

“I love James. Does he get it wrong? Yeah, but look at the growth,” she famous. “I thought he had potential and he’s probably the most interesting, along with Stassi, reality star that I’ve ever worked with. James is an open book. He’s very interesting, the fact that what he’s thinking, he says. He almost can’t stop himself so there’s been a lot of talking to him and drinking is his enemy. He should never drink again I’ve been very honest with him about that. He’s come a long way.”

Lisa can also be a fan of James’ girlfriend, Ally Lewber, 28.

“Very much. It’s pretty quick and he’s a lot to handle but I know he truly loves her … I think he’s so in love with Ally now. He loves hard. He’s in it,” she described.

Additionally through the look, Lisa mentioned that regardless of Sandoval’s missteps, he’s been a terrific good friend to the forged.

“He’s been an extraordinary friend to many of them. Look at James’ engagement. Look at Scheana. I think she loved Tom as a friend and they worked together for years before they were on [Pump Rules],” she identified.

Lisa then mentioned that Sandoval helped one other considered one of her workers by giving him cash throughout exhausting instances — simply as he did with Scheana.

“Nobody knew this but that is Tom Sandoval,” Lisa shared. “He can be a very good friend and very caring. I always saw that. James saw that. Scheana saw that. There’s a lot of good in Tom Sandoval, just not the part he put in Raquel.”